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Archie
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 02:14 AM
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WarWolfe
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 05:41 AM
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UF_Shoki
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 08:17 PM
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Archie,
Your job is nice but I doubt about the colours...
For the "orange" Zeros, they looked greener to me according to the research I've done and read on the subject.
My result is this :

Which is certainly not 100% correct but much closer to the artifacts I've seen of Pearl Harbour Reisen.
The green looks also lighter than I expected it. Here's mine :
If needed, I can send you the RVB mix or CMJN.
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Archie
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:35 PM
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| UF_Shoki wrote: |
Archie,
Your job is nice but I doubt about the colours...
For the "orange" Zeros, they looked greener to me according to the research I've done and read on the subject.
My result is this :

Which is certainly not 100% correct but much closer to the artifacts I've seen of Pearl Harbour Reisen.
The green looks also lighter than I expected it. Here's mine :

If needed, I can send you the RVB mix or CMJN.  |
In advance smooth over but I don't know English use translator. You're right UF_Shoki ,but extract corroborative rule how it is said at our place in Bohemia,zero from Zuikaku is painted special application colour "ame iro" which is special application against incidence sea atmosphere has have aureate orange touch.alternative zero would to me wash same paint.zero a6m3 model 22a would to me wash green colour which have been using on technology or which stained uniforms and with mixed with varnish or stick .this information am got from story on Japanese aviation here in czech. However to one's cost.
As though cannot use recipe as such. Others manufacturers colours weather conditions atd.mám in collection some original material after wermacht
and from shadows European yellow is any other
RVB mix or CMJN:-I shall be happy to when have transmit
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ebz7350
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Post subject: Re: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 04:10 PM
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hello..Archie! Excellent M8!
Any IJA/IJN Mottled Green Skins for Any Of Their Aircraft?
Keep Up The Good Work!
Regards
David
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Archie
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 05:15 PM
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works on that
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FuBear
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UF_Shoki
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Post subject: Re: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 02:38 PM
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| Archie wrote: |
You're right UF_Shoki ,but extract corroborative rule how it is said at our place in Bohemia,zero from Zuikaku is painted special application colour "ame iro" which is special application against incidence sea atmosphere has have aureate orange touch.alternative zero would to me wash same paint.zero a6m3 model 22a would to me wash green colour which have been using on technology or which stained uniforms and with mixed with varnish or stick .
RVB mix or CMJN:-I shall be happy to when have transmit |
If you're interested in japanese aircraft, have a look there : J Aircraft.com
There are some well done articles about the Zero colors. You shall enjoy them. I started from these article to "paint" my Zeros. The articles are often based on artifacts or relics from A6M2 downed around Pearl Harbour, at the time of the so called "Ame iro" ;).
I'll send you soon the RVB tint.
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Archie
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UF_Shoki
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Post subject: Re: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 06:52 PM
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Archie,
I recommend you to read this article on J-aircraft : Zero Camouflage Schemes
Very interesting.
And here's a picture of an artifact of the A6M2 mod.21 crashed on Ni'Ihau island following the Pearl Harbour attack :

Photo Credit : Jim Lansdale on J-aircraft.com
You can see the greenish hue of this aircraft part.
Another picture with different light :

Posted by JFL; Credit: Greg Springer
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Archie
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Post subject: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 04:25 AM
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I agree with you how arbovitae looked near pearl harbor .please you no higher if also subsisted winter Japanese disguise?
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UF_Shoki
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Post subject: Re: NEW SKINS ZERO
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 03:01 PM
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Japanese did not use winter camouflage scheme for their aircraft in the Navy.
For instance, the units based in the Northern areas of the Empire, near Russia or in the Aleutians archipelago, were still painted green above and grey or nmf underside.
There were confusion in the past as the color was estimated from japanese texts and not from "artifacts" or pieces of real aircraft.
The term "ameiro" wasn't correctly translated too as this term in japanese could stand for at least two different shade : caramel and ash grey.
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