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KiwiBiggles
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Post Post subject: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 01:59 PM
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Hi all.

I've been lovin' my new modded game and custom 'Typhoons Over Normandy' dynamic campaign. Now's the time for a new project though.

Because I had some small-scale success 'manipulating' DCG and the 'Forgotten Countries Lite' mod to create some custom Kiwi squadrons for 'Typhoons', I thought I might also be able to create a Cold War dynamic campaign. The big trick of course is getting DCG and/or DGen happy with NATO and the Warsaw Pact countries on opposite sides of IL-2's Red/Blue divide. With Forgotten Countries' alternative 'Blue' nations I got close (even very close) a couple times... but after much cussin' and eventually even porking my lovely SAS modded game, I'm here to say 'no dice'. At least as far as I can tell.

Our family motto is 'never give up!' - so, after reconstructing my SAS build, it occurred to me that since Forgotten Countries seems to be tailored for mission builders, I should probably try out the Full Mission Builder.

I fired up FMB and whoa - nice blue screen dude! Very Happy

It was a complete mystery.

Then I remembered this guy: Flying Nutcase and his awesome FMB tutorial site. I loaded up his first video and ten minutes later I've got a Blue side RAF Tempest flying over Berlin at sunrise.



I'm hooked! Rolling Eyes

What I had in mind when I was thinking of a Blue Force dynamic campaign was to explore the transition from high performance piston engined fighters to jets. Korea is the obvious scenario, and I like this account of Korean air combat from Wikipedia:

Quote::
The Korean War was the first war in which jet aircraft played a central role. Once-formidable fighters such as the P-51 Mustang, F4U Corsair, and Hawker Sea Fury —all piston-engined, propeller-driven, and designed during World War II—relinquished their air superiority roles to a new generation of faster, jet-powered fighters arriving in the theater. For the initial months of the war, the F-80 Shooting Star, F9F Panther, and other jets under the UN flag dominated North Korea’s prop-driven air force of Soviet Yakovlev Yak-9 and Lavochkin La-9s. The balance would shift, however, with the arrival of the swept-wing Soviet MiG-15.

The fast, heavily-armed MiG outflew first-generation UN jets such as the American F-80 and Australian and British Gloster Meteors, posing a real threat to B-29 Superfortress bombers even under fighter escort.

In summer and autumn 1951, the outnumbered Sabres of the USAF's 4th Fighter Interceptor Wing—only 44 at one point—continued seeking battle in MiG Alley, where the Yalu River marks the Chinese border, against Chinese and North Korean air forces capable of deploying some 500 aircraft.


Fifth Air Force, Korea--Smoke pours from a swept-wing Russian built MIG-15 as bullets spatter from the blazing machine guns of a U.S. Air Force F-86 "Sabre" jet pilot. Photographs, such as this, printed from actual gun camera film, plus written statements of jet pilots who witness the "kill" must be evaluated before official confirmation or credit may be given. The white ribbon in the photograph is a river somewhere below MiG Alley. AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM#: 86338 AC

Now there's some scenarios ripe for modded IL-2 missions...

I also have my eye on DixieCapt's cool KTO map upgrade; but I don't think I'm ready to tackle a Korea campaign just yet.

I remember watching a TV mini-series about the Berlin airlift when I was a kid, the main characters were C47 operators and the star of the show was a restored Dakota. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called, but it was cool!

And of course Berlin was an iconic Cold War location... ground zero for threatened Armageddon.

So those are the threads I want to tie together into a campaign. I love dynamic campaigns, but these FMB tutorials are also uber-cool - an outlet for one's creativity, according to Flying Nutcase. He even promises to show how to add the 'Fog of War' to static missions. And I do like to tell a story... so what else could I ask for? Cool

This won't be a tutorial or anything, more a diary of my experiences attempting to create this campaign. I'll be sure to include plenty of links and pics if you want to follow along.


Berliners in the Mist: a whole new playground. And a big, bright, round, pointy... erm, thingy...

Cheers
KB


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Post Post subject: Re: NATO Fighters: Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 02:32 PM
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I have a suggestion: since you're creating Cold War scenarios, including ones involving the Berlin Airlift, why don't you name the the campaign Apocalyptica? That's what I would name a campaign based on the Berlin Airlift.

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Post Post subject: Re: NATO Fighters: Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 02:38 PM
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109Driver4Life wrote:
I have a suggestion: since you're creating Cold War scenarios, including ones involving the Berlin Airlift, why don't you name the the campaign Apocalyptica? That's what I would name a campaign based on the Berlin Airlift.

Apocalyptica huh? Nice. Sounds like a girl I used to know. She did a nice line in PVC and whips... Twisted Evil


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Post Post subject: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 02:39 PM
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Ok. That's not true. I only want to know chicks who do PVC and whips...

Very Happy


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Post Post subject: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 02:57 PM
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If she played her cards right...


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Post Post subject: Re: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 03:36 PM
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I'm using pretty much the same SAS build as for 'Typhoons Over Normandy' except I've loaded the full version of Forgotten Countries. I'm using version 1.01 because I don't have the full AAA modpack and plane set. I'm just gonna download the mod planes I want - I'm hanging out for the final version of the Sabre for sure.

Anyways, following Flying Nutcase's tips I've finished my very first mission. Much fun had by all:


Blue force Tempest Mk.V v Red force YaK-9U at the merge.


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Post Post subject: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 01:27 AM
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Occupation zone borders in Germany, 1947. The territories east of the Oder-Neisse line, under Polish and Soviet administration/annexation, are shown as white as is the likewise detached Saar protectorate. Berlin is the multinational area within the Soviet zone.
Based on map data of the IEG-Maps project (Andreas Kunz, B. Johnen and Joachim Robert Moeschl: University of Mainz)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_Airlift



Map showing sectors of occupation of Berlin.
Image:Occupiedberlin.png by Morwean
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_Airlift



Berlin blockade.
Leerlaufprozess
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_Airlift



Berliners watching a C-54 land at Berlin Tempelhof Airport, 1948.
United States Air Force Historical Research Agency via Cees Steijger (1991), "A History of USAFE", Voyageur, ISBN: 1853100757; USAF photo 070119-F-0000R-101
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_Airlift


Quote::
The Berlin Blockade (24 June 1948 – 12 May 1949) was one of the first major international crises of the Cold War and the first such crisis that resulted in casualties. During the multinational occupation of post-World War II Germany, the Soviet Union blocked the Western Allies' railway and road access to the sectors of Berlin under their control. Their aim was to force the western powers to allow the Soviet zone to start supplying Berlin with food and fuel, thereby giving the Soviets practical control over the entire city.

In response, the Western Allies organized the Berlin Airlift to carry supplies to the people in West Berlin. The over 4,000 tons per day required by Berlin during the airlift totaled, for example, over ten times the volume that the encircled German 6th Army required six years earlier at the Battle of Stalingrad. The United States Air Force, Royal Air Force, and other Commonwealth nations flew over 200,000 flights providing 13,000 tons of food daily to Berlin in an operation lasting almost a year. By the spring of 1949, the effort was clearly succeeding, and by April the airlift was delivering more cargo than had previously flowed into the city by rail.

The success of the Airlift was humiliating to the Soviets, who had repeatedly claimed it could never work. When it became clear that it did work, the blockade was lifted in May. One lasting legacy of the Airlift is the three airports in the former western zones of the city, which served as the primary gateways to Berlin for another fifty years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_airlift#Berlin_Airlift

Plenty of potential for missions here - and because I'm interested in air combat from this era I'm going to add the obvious 'what-if' scenario... what if the Soviet Union decided to intercept the airlift?

Quote::
During the early months of the airlift the Soviets used various methods to harass allied aircraft. These included buzzing by Soviet planes, obstructive parachute jumps within the corridors, and shining searchlights to dazzle pilots at night. Although the USAFE reported 733 separate harassing events, including flak, air to air fire, rocketing, bombing and explosions, this is now considered to be exaggerated. None of these measures were effective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_airlift#Black_Friday


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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 07:43 PM
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The first step was to select a map (Berlin obviously) and start to populate it - make it start to become a living environment for our campaign missions.

We probably want to concentrate our efforts where our missions are located, airfields and objectives mostly. But even before that, we need an airlift - one of the themes of our campaign.

I haven't had much time to work on it (real life - what can ya do?) but here's my crack at the Berlin Airlift. Using Flying Nutcase's tips I've made a map of the operation (with Paint.net) for a bit of immersion:



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What do you think?

Looking at the map 'USAFE' should be a little higher so it's in the blue zone but not too bad for a first attempt?

Next step will be to add some ground convoys and add some stationary aircraft to the bases. Later we can start to build our fighter missions around the airlift, I can already think of some interesting scenarios including primary, secondary and hidden objectives.


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Post Post subject: NATO Fighters Over Berlin
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I have to admit to spending a bit of time just watching these C47s pull off some precision flying:









I'm using the upgraded C47 3d model and flyable cockpit from SAS, and vpmedia's skinpack from right here at M4T. So the player can jump into any of these Dakotas and fly an air landing or air drop mission if he wants, they're more than just background.


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I have no idea if cargo was airdropped in the real Berlin airlift - but this is just too cool to leave out! Very Happy







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The office for an airlift pilot. There's a cool search and rescue skin for these birds - I'm imagining in interlude mission in the campaign where we take one of these on a rescue mission...


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This the series you mentioned?

Airline

UK / Yorkshire / 9x50m-e / 1982
Creator:Wilfred Greatorex / Music:Tony Hatch / Producer:Michael Ferguson / Executive Producer: David Cunliffe / Aviation Advisor:Dick Millward

An RAF pilot starts his own airline in the immediate post-war years. In 1946 Jack Ruskin, demobbed after World War II but
with flying still in his blood, struggled to find work with civilian airlines and so chanced his arm by founding his own. His partner in the new Ruskin Air Services was forces colleague Peter Witney. Operating with an old Dakota aircraft Ruskin had bought, they aimed to cut themselves a slice of the world cargo market. However, the business had difficulty getting off the ground, inmore ways than one.
Ensnared by shady business deals and hampered by bad weather, Ruskin Air Services offered its staff and management an uncomfortable ride, as Jack lurched from one financial crisis to another. But his entrepreneurial spirit was not to be denied. He raised his sights, took on passenger transport and later became involved in the Berlin Airlift. Ernie Cade was the company's dodgy backer, McEvoy was the company engineer and Jennie Shaw was Jack's girlfriend. Tony Hatch provided the music.
Roy Marsden, Polly Hemingway (Marsden's then real-life wife) and the whole Airline ethos was borrowed for a British Airports Authority commercial several years later, a move which brought an unsuccessful lawsuit from the show's creator, Wilfred Greatorex.

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ROY MARSDEN as Jack Ruskin / RICHARD HEFFER as Peter Witney / SEAN SCANLAN as McEvoy / POLLY HEMINGWAY as Jeanie Shaw / TERENCE RIGBY as Ernie Cade




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That's it!

Thanx Blitz. Very Happy


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KiwiBiggles wrote:
I have no idea if cargo was airdropped in the real Berlin airlift - but this is just too cool to leave out! Very Happy

The Candy Bomber!!!

Colonel Gail Halvorsen was the original Candy Bomber.
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Shortly before landing at the Tempelhof airport in the American sector of Berlin, Halvorsen would drop candy attached to parachutes to children below. This action, which was dubbed Operation Little Vittles and sparked similar efforts by other crews, was the source of the popular name for the pilots: the candy bombers. Halvorsen had wanted to help raise the morale of the children during the time of uncertainty and privation.


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That's cool Wheels. When you think of what the world had just been through - and yet common human decency prevails in the end...

Maybe not always, but at least sometimes.


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