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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:41 PM
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Hi all - check this out. Terrific dogfight, and a twist Smile

gizmodo.com/5880254/th...ero-budget

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 02:52 AM
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Nicely done but i can't abide the late model spit vs the 109 "emil". And the ramming would have splattered both on the field methinks. But, not a bad piece of filming. Makes me yearn to see a seriously accurate WWII film with realistic air combat action. A good film about the P-38 mission to kill Admiral Yamamoto would be really welcome!

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 03:46 AM
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Smile
I certainly don't profess to be any sort of expert in airplane recognition, but one thing that did drag my eye was the seeming existence of struts underneath the Spit's horizontal stabilisers, like a Bf109.

Must watch it again to check, I had posted it quickly and had to go out.

Bloody clever work though!!


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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 03:48 AM
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Thanks for the link von_Stalhein, I had seen the trailer so it's nice to see the whole thing. And yes that's a good twist at the end Smile

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Nicely done but i can't abide the late model spit vs the 109 "emil". And the ramming would have splattered both on the field methinks. But, not a bad piece of filming. Makes me yearn to see a seriously accurate WWII film with realistic air combat action. A good film about the P-38 mission to kill Admiral Yamamoto would be really welcome!

The Spitfire MkVb vs the 109E is historically accurate but I do agree that there's some rather big inaccuracies in this although I won't say what as that'd spoil the story for anyone who watches it.
Still, this low budget film shows what big studios could/should be able to get modern aviation war films looking like.

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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 09:03 AM
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Just watched it again from my hdd - the other impressive aspect is the engine sound - buggered if I know if it's accurate, but having been to Temora (google Temora Aviation Museum) a fair few times it certainly reminded me of hearing the Merlins there and gave me goosebumps Smile

Basically - will watch good aeroplane porn over again!

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Post Post subject: Re: Short film via Gizmodo
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 08:48 AM
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von_Stalhein, thanks for the link!

nyalex09 wrote:
Nicely done but i can't abide the late model spit vs the 109 "emil". And the ramming would have splattered both on the field methinks. But, not a bad piece of filming. Makes me yearn to see a seriously accurate WWII film with realistic air combat action. A good film about the P-38 mission to kill Admiral Yamamoto would be really welcome!
Really? Such nitpicking IMO. Seems that every film that comes out gets torn apart for it's "inaccuracies". Where are filmakers going to find flyable WWII planes for their films? Most that remain flyable are too precious to risk in combat maneuvers. We've already lost too many planes and good pilots to air show accident. And if they CGI them then there is that complaint. You act as though it was on the scale of the "Afflect Pearl Harbor" or something. Does it also upset you that they didn't use real Zero's in "Tora! Tora! Tora!" and used TTT footage in "Midway"? And, a film about the shoot down of Yamamoto would be what if "realistic"? 3 hours of flying over a blank Pacific Ocean followed by 15 minutes of combat footage followed by another 3 hours of flying over the Pacific. Yeah, I'm sure audiences would pony up good money for that.
I mean, c'mon now.

Looking at the overall film I thought it was a good depiction of air combat over the British Isles circa 1940-42. (and the engines did sound awesome). And I felt some empathy for both the RAF pilot and the German. Now that's good filmaking.

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Nothing personal nyalex09 and sorry about the rant, but it seems that everytime a WWII film comes out everyone focuses on the deficiencies and not on the quality of filmaking. A film is supposed to help you connect with the characters and help tell their story in a way that you can understand it and, hopefully, feel what they might have felt. I think this short film did a great job of that.


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Well said, Beebop!

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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:18 PM
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Yes! Thanks for the link. Well worth the watch.

And well said Beebop!

It was well done. $92,000.00 sound like a lot of money, but when I was producing TV commercials back in the...well let's just say awhile back, computer generation...and it was relatively simple CG cost $1,000.00 per second.

I felt for the characters which is so lacking in a lot of more expensive films today. You leave the show not caring wether the main character lived or died.

People enjoy being are chair critics. I’m not knocking them, but get out of the old arm chair and take a shot at it yourself. Put your heart and soul into a project only to have someone who never create anything shoot it to pieces…no offence meant. I was expected to cheat a masterpiece , on demand, each and every time…sometimes I failed, not my clients, but myself. They did think it was bad, but I did and it hurt like hell. I’m glad I got out…it was killing me.

Sorry for the rant...I love you all.


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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:16 PM
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Sorry about being a killjoy... it's just that I love WWII aviation and have been studying it since I was a boy. So it's hard not to notice all the little things that are not accurate. I really do appreciate the quality and hard work put into this film, it's great action and fine acting. I was just shocked that at the end they are in Ireland! The Spit and 109 were incredibly short legged! Reaching Ireland would have been damn near impossible especially for the 109. Just made me kinda laugh...

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