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Experts have said the Germans should have massed produced the Pz 4 and not bothered with the Tigers and Panther. Maybe they are right, but you just can't fail to be impressed and intimidated by the Tigers presence. To our tankers in Cromwells, Shermans and Churchills, the psychological effect of a Tiger appearing in the area must have been horrendous.


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The Tigers were produced in ridiculously small quantities. The Germans only built 1,347 Tiger I tanks. They only built 492 Tiger II tanks. Both vehicles consumed huge amounts of fuel, required substantial logistics systems to keep them operating, were limited in where they could go because of their weight and were very expensive to manufacture. Overall, another one of Hitler's bad decisions.

They didn't give too many shots of the "Tiger" in the film clip, but I would guess it is a British Centurion with a Tiger I turret. People complain about the "Tiger" in Saving Private Ryan, but that one was far better looking than this one.


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The Private Ryan Tiger was a 'chopped' T34 and the Band of Brothers Jagdpanther was a ''chopped' T55. As Zeus-cat states, need to see more of this other Tiger replica to assertain its origins


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Just found some info on the kit used for this movie via this link. The info suggests that the 'Tiger' is a chopped Josef Stalin tank, but then, they built a replica Tiger. Check out the link, there's some good stuff

www.imfdb.org/wiki/Whi...tigr),_The


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See what this thread has forced me to do Rolling Eyes


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The Tiger in the movie is hideous!



Next time use the Bovington one!

[img]http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9071&d=1319888880[/img]


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Kurfurst wrote:
Just found some info on the kit used for this movie via this link. The info suggests that the 'Tiger' is a chopped Josef Stalin tank, but then, they built a replica Tiger. Check out the link, there's some good stuff

www.imfdb.org/wiki/Whi...tigr),_The

Nice touch that they included some of the lend-lease tanks, i.e, Grant and Matilda.


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Normandy was possibly the worst tank country in all of the war in northwest europe. When we finally broke free of the hedgerow country, the 8:1 kill ratio the German's enjoyed didn't last. Also, AFV's like the Stug III suffered in Normandy as they had no turrets and had a limited ability to react to threats coming from the flanks and rear.

When more open country was encountered, the superior cross-country performance of the Sherman allowed swift maneuver to negate the strong frontal armor of the Panther, Tiger, and Tiger II. The Panther in particular had fairly weak side armor, easily penetrated by the standard 75mm L/40 short barreled cannons used on the majority of Shermans.

While the Tiger II and JagdTiger have gained a certain mystique in the time since WWII, their actual performance in and out of battle was marginal at best IMO.


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Some may think I am crazy for saying this but. . .

where can I find an English Dub of this movie ??? it looks killer, but I am not a fan of reading subtitles if i dont have to.

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fj_13 wrote:
Some may think I am crazy for saying this but. . .

where can I find an English Dub of this movie ??? it looks killer, but I am not a fan of reading subtitles if i dont have to.

Probably can't, not for sometime anyway until someone decides to attempt it, and then it won't be good. Thought Downfall was a great movie to watch with subtitles, dubbed, it would have been terrible. If the Germans spoke English, they wouldn't have lost the war Wink


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I picked up a copy of the film White Tiger from my local supermarket the other day and watched it. I have to say that I was impressed by the fact that they were using real T34s in the movie armed with the 85mm main gun, there must be a good supply of them still left in Eastern Europe. I was a little disappointed with the Tiger Tank in the film. Although the film had some good action sequences in it I can only give it about 80% out of 100. However as I am a bit of a tank nut I could not ignore it. Its worth a watch if you are a Tank nut...


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Interesting preview, never heard of this movie so thanks for posting. I'll definitely have to check it out, but I have to agree with the original poster, the Tiger is obviously just another tank that has been modified to look Tiger-ish. Then again it's better than the old American War movies that just used repainted M-48's (remember "Battle of the Bulge"?)


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Sakai007 wrote:
Normandy was possibly the worst tank country in all of the war in northwest europe. When we finally broke free of the hedgerow country, the 8:1 kill ratio the German's enjoyed didn't last. Also, AFV's like the Stug III suffered in Normandy as they had no turrets and had a limited ability to react to threats coming from the flanks and rear.

When more open country was encountered, the superior cross-country performance of the Sherman allowed swift maneuver to negate the strong frontal armor of the Panther, Tiger, and Tiger II. The Panther in particular had fairly weak side armor, easily penetrated by the standard 75mm L/40 short barreled cannons used on the majority of Shermans.

While the Tiger II and JagdTiger have gained a certain mystique in the time since WWII, their actual performance in and out of battle was marginal at best IMO.

I would debate that it was a matter of tactics. The Tigers, I and II, were excellent defensive tanks, as proven the the hedgerows. Offensively they were too slow. In the end, they did consume a tremendous amount of resources and I'm forced to agree that Pz. 4's were a much more cost effective tank. The Panther I would argue was a step in the right direction, but by the time it was finally up to snuff (remember that early models had a lot of teething troubles) it was too little too late.

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When I see how awesome they made the Russian side (even amazing) then I ask myself WTF did they think when they "made" that Tiger (lol). Seriously when u see how many real WW2 tanks are still there in museums (look at YT!) and even operational, why not use a real Tiger or at least a good animated one (things can look awesome nowadays as we all know). I'm really hoping for an epic WW2 movie to come which will contain real Tanks in some scenes. Imo the battle of Prochorovka would be a worthwhile theme for a 3 h + Blockbuster. If I had the money - I'd make great movies - I'm full of ideas. (also where is a new "Bismarck" - movie for ex.?) I really don't understand movie producers: Seldom that u say after watching "that was perfect" - so much effort, money wasted... Confused


Just had to add this - even that looks better imo...


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What game is that from the picture, T34 vs Tiger?

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