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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 05:03 PM
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I want to ask, when we fly and use radar, the icons (white planes) on the map are all friendly contacts or mixed?


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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:19 AM
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Radar? No planes in the stock game that has radar. Not that I have noticed anyway! Do you mean the map or do you have some mod containing aircraft with radar?
If you mean the map the white plane is your aircraft, blue are axis and red allied planes.


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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 02:52 AM
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Perhaps it's the new fog of war settings that we have now with v4.11?
I haven't investigated it yet, but sounds like that's what's being described.
I read somewhere about a ship's ability to see you and report you on the map,
aswell as if you are spotted by one enemy aircraft, you'll show up on all enemy's map.

Maybe "Radar" is a bad choice of word, because that's not quite what it is.

Unless I'm totally wrong about what the author is speaking of. I don't know what
a "white plane" would represent, other than maybe a civilian (neutral) aircraft.


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I haven't investigated that either JG26_EZ. Mayby your right. Didn't even think of that option.

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:38 AM
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Hmmm

Just came from the FMB after trying to get the FOW thing to work, with no luck.

It seems when I engage the FOW mode in the difficulty settings, It causes an error when I attempt to launch. I select a bf109 I placed in the mission, but when I click FLY, it says "Aircraft not created". I tried a bunch of times and switched flights and so on, with no luck. So, I still can't confirm if the aircraft is white or not in FOW.


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Have you tried to place the flyable plane first before turning on the FOW?

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Maybe "aircraft not created" is part of the FOW - misinformation from the enemy? Wink

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Would be nice to have some aircraft with radar though. Like the Bf.110 nightfighter versions. Or the Black Widow.
Well, one can always dream!

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Here you go guys. Just whip out the ole B25 ultra Awacs: Surprised


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I speak about Ultrapack 3 and full real settings (No icons on the map). But when the server have radar active we can see contacts on the map (white planes). If we bomb the enemy radar, enemies cannot see contacts on the map at all.

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In that case i suppose you are not supposed to be able to see the diffrence. Radar during the second world war was very crude compared to modern day radar. The could only see contacts on the radar screens, not witch side they belonged to. To identify a contact you either hade to get eyes on it and identify the aircraft that way or rule it out by knowing the positions of your own air units. Those that are not your own is probably the enemy.

Thats why a good command and control system was so important!

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Hi Verdun,

Not to get all trainspotter on you, but IFF was used by the RAF, Luft and probably the US (and maybe others) from early on during WW2 so you could get a reasonable idea of who's side the radar contact was on. Not perfect etc but still useful. Here's a list of various systems in case not seen before that includes IFF systems

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._equipment

Ive had a play with the radar concept in IL2 using ships as 'radars' and its OK - not ideal but potentially useful for simulating a rudimentary GCI setup maybe.

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Thanks Ezzie! I only thaught that came at the end of the war.

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Here is an 'IL2 1946' carrier warning a friendly patrol of unknown aircraft in the area. It comes in at 9:25: Cool

youtu.be/8YoXyS-EPzI

(Caution: video contains profanity)


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So what about il2 ultrapack? there are always friendly or mixed?


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